More Dirty Tricks

I have to give CBC’s Mike Crawley credit for exposing this Machiavellian move by the Ontario Liberal Government.

If I understand this correctly, the Wynne Liberals quietly created a new government agency to provide home care, and will thereby encourage many PSWs to leave private agencies and become Ontario government employees instead.

These new workers will likely become members of a powerful union (SEIU Healthcare) that has strong Liberal ties and is the key financial backer of Working Ontario Women which is running attack ads against Patrick Brown.

As Crawley points out, the political advantage for the Liberals is not lost on many in the industry:

“This is not about health care, this is about delivering these workers to this union,” said one industry insider who asked not to be identified to avoid potential business repercussions. “Everybody in health care knows that this is what this play is all about.”

 

So this will buy the union’s favour and they in turn will put out even more attack ads on Patrick Brown.

Wynne is cunning. I’ll give her that.  Liberals always put their own party before everyone else’s interests; especially just before an election campaign.

Related:

Poll suggests union attack ads on Brown are taking a tollToronto Star

Working Ontario Women: A “pink-washed front group”Sheila Gunn Reid via EBL News.

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37 Responses to More Dirty Tricks

  1. Liz J says:

    When it comes to dirty politics nobody does it better than the Liberals and when they are desperate it’s off the charts.
    All Brown and the PC’s, can do is expose them at every turn, trick by trick and hope the electorate wake up and do their homework to see the hand that gives also takes away, there are no free lunches no matter how they wrap it.

    What is hard to figure in all this, we have so many in the health care and other professions unhappy with the Wynne government while supporting unions she caves in to. Case in point, she refuses to legislate an end to the college strike and that’s all about votes, not the poor students.

    Pass the pot or blood pressure meds!

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  2. Liz J says:

    These attack ads against Brown need to be traced to the source of the funding. Could we have collusion and worse? Corruption, or is there any such thing anymore? This is serious stuff. it needs to be challenged, it’s beyond criticism of opposing policy, it’s vicious, it’s simply sickening, it’s taking democracy to the lowest level.

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  3. Liz J says:

    This needs to be given the attention it deserves and call it a wake up call for Ontario voters, it’s abuse of our democratic process, abuse of Patrick Brown and a fit with political sleaze.

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    • joannebly says:

      Yes if it isn’t illegal it should be!

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      • Miles Lunn says:

        Third party ads like this are restricted 6 months out from the election, but not before then so since writ will be dropped on May 9, 2018, they cannot spend more than 100K on these (thus they cannot run them during prime time as an ad during that time costs more than that). Otherwise the reason they were bombarding the airwaves now is these kick in on November 9th so going forward you shouldn’t see too many more. Hopefully there is no lasting damage from these. The PCs need to hit back though on these. As for polls, the campaign research one is not too far off their past polls and approval ratings of all leaders have fallen. Forum which has a pretty good track record shows a 21 point lead so will be interesting what their next one shows. I do think Brown though needs to do better amongst females, but it seems a gender gap seems to be common nowadays in both Canada and the US (UK not so much) with right wing parties doing better amongst males and left wing amongst females. I also think the college strike could hurt the Liberals amongst younger voters which is the one group they are still strong with.

        Warren Kinsella has a good article on this and he knows a fair bit about attack ads. Interestingly enough he points out many of the same people who will be running Wynne’s campaign are the same who ran Paul Martin’s. While he is a Liberal, I find he is quite balanced in his commentary unlike many other Liberals.

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        • joannebly says:

          Interesting about Kinsella. He’s a Chretien guy. So not a Martin fan. 😉

          So true about what he said though. An attack ad has to be based in fact to resonate.

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          • Liz J says:

            An attack ad should be based on fact but that would mean all people are informed, many are not, they just accept what they see on TV especially, not sure many even read the news. The Liberals count on the principle of toss it out and hope a lot of it sticks.

            There’s got to be a lot of stupidity going around or we would never have the mess we have in Ontario through repeatedly voting for the Liberals in spite of scandals and lies.

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          • joannebly says:

            All good points Liz. Low information voters would just swallow whatever garbage they are served without a second thought.

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  4. joannebly says:

    Time test.

    Had to manually change the time stamp since Standard time kicked in on the weekend so comment times may look a bit strange.

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  5. Miles Lunn says:

    Hopefully Brown fully exposes this. That being said nothing surprises me with the Wynne government nowadays. I am not surprised of this though, I’ve always known something was fishy with working families coalition and other third party advertisers. If they were going to spend this amount of money they would obviously expect something in return. Hopefully this is widely exposed so Wynne cannot get away with this or heaven forbid people decide to elect Howarth instead.

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  6. Liz J says:

    On an entirely different issue, PM Trudeau is not here to stand in Remembrance of those who served and died in service to this country. In politics as in life we have priorities and we strive to do what matters most and it isn’t always down to deals or business.

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    • Greg says:

      Not only not here, but bailed out of the meeting he traveled over there for. Regardless of how you feel about TPP, it’s pretty low class to agree to meet with several world leaders, get them to travel to another country, and then just change your mind. If a conservative treated world leaders like that…….

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  7. Liz J says:

    Do we have a movement within the PC party against Brown over the carbon tax?

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    • Miles Lunn says:

      I think there is. That being said as long as Trudeau is PM, we really have no choice so best just to make it revenue neutral like it was in BC until recently and use the revenue raised to cut taxes. It’s cheaper than the cap and trade we have and if we raise enough revenue I think we can give rebates to low income individuals while cut taxes enough to make it worthwhile. Unlike in Alberta, we cannot just rely on those who hate Trudeau, we need to pick up some federal Liberal support to win in 2018 so I don’t think threatening to take Trudeau to court will help us. It will only sell well amongst the base who will vote PC anyways, not amongst the swing voters we need to win over. I think Brown understands how difficult it is to win in Ontario as a Conservative so he is trying to be as conservative as he can and still be electable. It’s important we remain united as we can ill afford to lose the next election over divisions and let Wynne get back in.

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    • Anne in swON says:

      I think you may be right, Liz. There are some in the party who are deeply disappointed in Brown’s about-face on issues that won him the leadership in the first place. We’ll soon find out how deeply divided the party really is during the upcoming policy convention. Grassroots members seem to believe they are being ignored and that Brown is moving the party ever leftward. This is an excellent article detailing the slide in popularity among the base. http://www.theinterim.com/features/patrick-brown-nixes-social-conservative-policies/

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  8. joannebly says:

    Jaime Watt seems to agree with Kinsella that the Liberal attack ad messaging is a bit off (to say the least).

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  9. Liz J says:

    What a side show our Prime Minister is…he was a big hit in the Philippines, lots of selfies.
    If there’s some substance to match we have something worth the money.

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  10. Liz J says:

    Who and what is behind the cobbled up WOW, supposedly working Ontario women with actors role playing. Seems to be the MO of the Ontario Liberals, hire actors to fake it.
    Hopefully the PC’s will get onto this and expose just who is behind it. It’s a sham.

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    • Anne in swON says:

      Q: Who is behind WOW? A: The Service Employees International Union.
      Q: What is behind WOW? A: Big money and another way around campaign financing laws.

      “A well-financed, new organization called Working Ontario Women (WOW) is set to launch a new ad blitz to prevent a Trumpian outcome of next June’s Ontario election.

      Bankrolled by the powerful Service Employees International Union, which has 2 million members in North America and has supported the governing Liberals in the past, WOW will be advertising on television and online in the coming days.” https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/10/12/working-ontario-women-organization-plans-pre-election-ad-blitz.html

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      • Liz J says:

        This is legal? How many people will know about this? Is this bordering on meddling in the democratic process using an international union? How much of our money has already been used to pay for this?

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  11. gabbyinqc says:

    The current polluted political atmosphere, permeating almost every facet of our lives, has me gasping for cleaner air. What brought this on? Years ago, when I first got email, I got on the PM Harper PMO email list because I emailed him a few times. I still receive PMO email, but of course from Trudeau’s PMO. I just got this one, headed: “Prime Minister launches Canada.ca/Results”.

    Regulars of this site remember Sandy’s launch of the Conservatives’ Accomplishments list. Many of us contributed to the list, with supporting links. If the Harper PMO was aware of the list, they never saw fit to capitalize on it, proving to the voting public how their government was getting good results. However, it seems the Trudeau PMO sees the merits of doing just that, ergo “Prime Minister launches Canada.ca/Results”. PUKE.

    As for the Ontario WOW campaign, why is anyone surprised that an international union would be trying to interfere in a domestic political campaign? Don’t you remember AVAAZ? BTW, AVAAZ is currently involved in the Rohingya crisis, supposedly raising funds to help them. I wonder if Trudeau & Ricken Patel, the AVAAZ head honcho, are buddies.

    There are so many revolting things going on in our world, including the allegations of sexual harassment, assault, molestation etc. that it’s difficult to keep an optimistic POV, especially now as we head into the season of “… peace on earth good will to men …”

    Maybe watching “It’s a Wonderful Life” for the umpteenth time will make the eggnog taste as it should.

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    • joannebly says:

      I hear you Gabby! Very discouraging times right now.

      Yes eggnog and “It’s a Wonderful Life” sounds very inviting indeed.

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      • gabbyinqc says:

        I guess I was completely and utterly wrong.in thinking that a government should inform the citizenry about what it has been accomplishing during its mandate. My initial reaction to the Libs’ “Prime Minister launches Canada.ca/Results” was regret that they had somehow copied Sandy’s initiative (Conservative Government Accomplishments), which PM Harper’s PMO did not do.

        However, most pundits I’ve heard or read are critical of the Trudeau canada.ca/Results website, mocking it as the Liberals grading themselves, giving themselves a report card, something that should be done by independent bodies/analysts. Some examples (from National Newswatch):
        – Andrew Coyne , National Post: “Without meaning to, the Liberals have revealed all their broken promises”
        Justin Ling, The Walrus: “The Intolerable Immodesty of Justin Trudeau”
        Robyn Urback, CBC: “Trudeau government’s ‘mandate tracker’ is one mighty piece of propaganda”
        Campbell Clark, Globe and Mail: “Liberal government’s promise-tracker is a good idea that doesn’t deliver”
        John Ivison, National Post: “Liberal government doing an outstanding job, says Liberal government”

        Maybe PM Harper’s PMO was right in not attempting to blow its own horn after all — and I was wrong wrong wrong. Did I say I was wrong?

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        • joannebly says:

          Ha-ha! Gabby that’s funny. 😉

          Well here’s what I think. The party should keep track of the promises and accomplishments on it’s own site; not the Government site. To me that’s using a taxpayer site for the party’s own benefit. And on top of that it’s poorly designed in terms of objectivity and form as many of those columnists you refer to have pointed out.

          Or perhaps such a site should be set up and maintained by a group of independent journalists from all sides of the political spectrum. But the current Liberal set-up is a joke.

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          • gabbyinqc says:

            You’re right, maybe the party should be the one keeping track. However, would partisan journalists (let’s face it, there are some … even aplenty) differentiate between party vs government tracking? Remember how the Conservatives’ ads about the government’s Action Plan were called propaganda by the opposition & some media? And I’m sorry to say I wouldn’t trust anyone who claims to be an “independent” anything. Everyone’s got an agenda, whether (s)he admits it or not.

            On a related vein … it infuriates me to hear the Liberals claim victory on issues / initiatives that the Harper government got rolling, like the Free Trade agreement with the EU (CETA) & the child benefits. They also say they lowered the retirement age back to 65 — as if the age had already been changed to 67. The Conservatives’ plan was to gradually introduce the changes, with full implementation to come in 2023. The Liberals have appropriated major Conservative policies, like the initial FTA, the GST, an others. Shouldn’t the current Conservatives point that out once in a while?

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          • joannebly says:

            All good points Gabby. Liberals are shameless. Everything good is because of them; everything bad is Stephen Harper’s fault.

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  12. Liz J says:

    The vote for me money being tossed out by Wynne and company is making me dizzy!

    Gas plant scandals, bribery charges, all flubbed off, it’s a bad scene in Ontario.
    I don’t know what constitutes corruption anymore. Now they have concocted “WOW” funded by an international union hired by the Wynne Liberals to go after Brown on the usual tired old issues like abortion and sexuality.

    Wonder ow much the actors get paid for doing these political ads? The PC’s should have no trouble getting lots of free opinions if they take to the streets!

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  13. For the next few weeks, my comments will be under my blog name instead of Miles Lunn. I am overseas now so using my mobile instead of desktop which doesn’t allow name changes.

    Ontario PC’s just released their minimum wage policy which is to increase it by 25 cents each year until it hits 15 dollars an hour in 2022. This seems quite reasonable and was actually the Liberal’s policy until they tried to out left the NDP based on bad poll numbers. They will atack us for it but hopefully people will see this and many of their other moves as political desperation.

    GabbyinQc – I’ve found Trudeau has really made government sites and documents very partisan, far more than Harper ever did despite many accusing him of this. Things like budgets and PM websites should be politically neutral not Liberal party propaganda. That is how it was with past governments of all stripes.

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  14. Liz J says:

    The Wynne Liberals are very active, handing out so much “stuff” it’s hard to keep track.

    Our man Brown better take care,think long and hard on alternate policies. Liberals will be setting a few traps to trip him up and they’ll run with it. It only took one issue with Hudak and one issue with John Tory. Being honest isn’t a factor any more, whatever sounds the best on the “what’s in it for me” spectrum.

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  15. Having travelled quite a bit recently, I must say I find people often bring up our PM when abroad whereas no one ever did when Harper was PM or as a matter of fact even with Chretien, Martin, or Mulroney. I preferred it myself having a PM who few beyond our borders knew about and based on how small Canada is, most of the time we can enjoy that luxury unlike say in the US where their president is always known. Many are shocked when I say I dislike him as he seems to be well liked abroad, but my response is he raised my taxes, otherwise he is easy to like if you don’t pay taxes not so much if you do. Sort of like Obama who was far more popular abroad than at home although to be fair I would take Obama over Trudeau any day as Obama was fairly centrist at least relative to Trudeau and he seemed more humble not a celebrity always seeking attention. Interestingly enough beyond Canada, social democratic parties are at an all time low so if anything our leftward swing is out of synch with the vast majority of countries who are swinging rightward.

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  16. Steve Paikin’s most recent blog is on the cozy relationship between public sector unions and Wynne government. This needs to be made clear as this stinks highly of collusion.

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  17. Liz J says:

    The Phoenix still rises, the cost is going be into the billions. It is a colossal boondoggle. No matter how much the Trudeau crew blame it on the Harper government it will not fly, they chose to go ahead and continue on with it. It’s astounding how they refuse to listen to advice from people in the know.

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