Saving Canada from Socialism

Two recent columns by L. Ian MacDonald express similar thoughts – that Prime Minister Harper’s appeal to Blue Liberals likely did work as they contemplated the possibility of an NDP-led coalition:

In Ontario, while voters equally admired Layton, they have definite memories of the NDP in government, none of them good.

Vote splitting between the NDP and Liberals also benefited the Conservatives. Then the Tories had a ballot box bounce in Ontario, winning 44% of the vote, with the NDP and Liberals essentially tied in the mid-20s.

And again:

And in the final week, the Liberals got squeezed from both the left and the right in Ontario, with some strategic voters moving to the NDP to stop Harper from getting a majority, and others moving from the Liberals to the Conservatives to stop the socialist hordes. In the Greater Toronto Area, where voters have strong memories of the disastrous NDP government in the 1990s, it was the first thing Conservative candidates were hearing at the door in the final week.

MacDonald feels the resulting Conservative majority and decline of the Bloc are the very best of all worlds; giving the Liberals a chance to heal and the NDP an opportunity to learn how to play in the big-league without wrecking the country in the process.

Again I find myself wondering if this fear of socialism  and the implosion of the Liberal party will have consequences in the Ontario fall election.

My advice to Tim Hudak’s Progressive Conservatives would be to discount that hope and concentrate on an issue-by-issue, riding-by-riding battle.

And make good use of the strong Conservative ground-team in Ontario!

Motivate from the grassroots-up. Respect the taxpayer (and not just with words). That is the secret of Tory success.

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As Back Off Government notes, one Liberal blogger sees the bigger picture:

…What the Liberals have the do in the next two years is find that coalition, find that group of supporters, and find those factions that have been unclaimed by other groups. Or, grow those groups. Or steal them back, in the case of the federalists in Quebec. The Liberals need to grow from their ice cube and push for a creation of a base of support that rivals the Conservatives and then would ultimately defeat it. This will take years, however. The Progressive Conservatives never did it and were about to dissolve forever until Reform/Alliance, a party that had grown up from several groups banding together, brought together several disparate groups over twenty years. This twenty year process ultimately culminated in 2011 with the election of Stephen Harper as majority Prime Minister in Ottawa…


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36 Responses to Saving Canada from Socialism

  1. old white guy says:

    save canada from socialism. what a totally stupid statement. this bloody country has moved to the left every year of my life. if you ask any canadian about any problem they will ask what will the government do? 60 percent of all canadians vote for taking other peoples money and giving it to someone else. the other 40 percent only want to take slightly less. heh, socailism, we are there. carry on oh stupid ones. i just wish someone other than myslef would point out the obvious.


    • Joanne says:

      Old White Guy – You sound a tad bitter. But don’t blame the messenger. 😉

      “The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” – Maggie Thatcher


  2. maz2 says:

    Left’s death struggle continues.

    Which faction is Uncle Joe communist? Which faction is Adolf National Socialism?

    A: Both.

    Liberal Hezbollah Coderre leads the charge.


    “Liberal candidate challenges election of absentee New Democrat”

    “New Democrat MP Ruth Ellen Brosseau’s surprise victory in Berthier-Maskinongé is being challenged by the defeated Liberal candidate, who unveiled new allegations of irregularities Friday.

    Francine Gaudet said a formal complaint has been made with Elections Canada by a voter in the riding alleging there are at least 90 invalid signatures on the elected NDP candidate’s nomination papers.”

    “Ms. Gaudet held a news conference Friday in Trois-Rivières with veteran Quebec Liberal MP Denis Coderre to confirm the challenge.”


  3. The_Iceman says:

    I don’t know how good this session is going to be for the NDP. They might spend the entire time in damage control. Kids are more likely to make mistakes. Expect a lot of mistakes. Unless their orders are to shut up and do nothing unless specifically instructed, in which case we can start calling Jack Layton a control freak who muzzles his MPs…


  4. Lorraine says:

    O/T-CPC Senator turned unsuccessful MP candidate Fabian Manning’s mother passed away yesterday.
    What an absolutely heartbreaking week this fine Canadian has had.


  5. Ontario Girl says:

    Jean Chretien calling for the Liberal party to put Bob Rae in as interm leader.


  6. Mary T says:

    Has anyone mentioned the total wipe out of the lib/dems in England in a recent election, lost over 200 seats at local levels, calls for the coalition partner to resign. Not the PM but the guy he made a coalition with. You know, the one our media said was a perfect example, except the party with the most seats was included.
    My sympathy to Fabian Manning and his family.


  7. jon says:

    I don’t know how good this session is going to be for the NDP. They might spend the entire time in damage control. Kids are more likely to make mistakes. Expect a lot of mistakes.

    Jacques Lateaun is going to have to play the role of kindergarten cop, that’s for sure. I’m just wondering how the first week for each of the kids will go — quite stressful, I bet. But when the weekend comes, they’ll all let lose. I suspect that one will be caught visiting friends on a college campus, sucking beer from a keg using a hose or something, just like Will Ferrel in Old School…. the NDP will be a laughing stock going into the next election. And the best part for the CPC, the Libs have such a huge hill to climb to get back to where they once were, should mean great chances of back-to-back CPC majorities.

    BTW, anyone catch Taber on P&P just a few minutes ago? Typical Toronto elites (and I’m from here and I hate them just as much as you). She says that the one positive aspect of the CPC’s breakthrough into the 416 is that now there’s a sophistication in those elected that wasn’t there before. Amazing.


  8. Lorraine says:

    Yikes everyone:
    The State Broadcaster CBC is now charging you to email their stuff. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry 🙂


    • Joanne says:

      The State Broadcaster CBC is now charging you to email their stuff.

      Lorraine – Thanks for that heads-up. I plan to boycott them. Please everyone – No more links from the State Broadcaster. Thanks.


  9. jon says:

    Lorraine, an obvious attempt by the CBC to look for alternative revenue sources because they know what PMSH is going to do to them. I wonder what the talk has been at the ceeb since the CPC won a majority. A panic has set in, I bet. PMSH will take his time. I suspect he’s going to wait until the CBC loses its appeal in the courts. The real fun begins when the CBC is forced to open the books.


  10. maz2 says:

    ‘Nother cut to the leftist/socialists’ arts.

    Say No! to the left.

    More; and, faster.


    “AV referendum: Britain overwhelmingly votes No”

    “Plans to change the way the MPs are elected have been overwhelmingly rejected by voters.”


  11. maz2 says:

    Three huge cuts to the left-socialists’ arts.

    This the evidence of the collapse of socialism in Europe.

    Canadians knew that socialism is a dead fossil.

    More, and faster.


    “Athens Mulls Plans for New Currency”

    “Greece Considers Exit from Euro Zone”

    “The debt crisis in Greece has taken on a dramatic new twist. Sources with information about the government’s actions have informed SPIEGEL ONLINE that Athens is considering withdrawing from the euro zone. The common currency area’s finance ministers and representatives of the European Commission are holding a secret crisis meeting in Luxembourg on Friday night.”

    “Greece’s economic problems are massive, with protests against the government being held almost daily. Now Prime Minister George Papandreou apparently feels he has no other option: SPIEGEL ONLINE has obtained information from German government sources knowledgeable of the situation in Athens indicating that Papandreou’s government is considering abandoning the euro and reintroducing its own currency.

    Alarmed by Athens’ intentions, the European Commission has called a crisis meeting in Luxembourg on Friday night. The meeting is taking place at Château de Senningen, a site used by the Luxembourg government for official meetings. In addition to Greece’s possible exit from the currency union, a speedy restructuring of the country’s debt also features on the agenda. One year after the Greek crisis broke out, the development represents a potentially existential turning point for the European monetary union — regardless which variant is ultimately decided upon for dealing with Greece’s massive troubles.

    Given the tense situation, the meeting in Luxembourg has been declared highly confidential, with only the euro-zone finance ministers and senior staff members permitted to attend. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and Jörg Asmussen, an influential state secretary in the Finance Ministry, are attending on Germany’s behalf.

    ‘Considerable Devaluation’

    Sources told SPIEGEL ONLINE that Schäuble intends to seek to prevent Greece from leaving the euro zone if at all possible. He will take with him to the meeting in Luxembourg an internal paper prepared by the experts at his ministry warning of the possible dire consequences if Athens were to drop the euro.

    “It would lead to a considerable devaluation of the new (Greek) domestic currency against the euro,” the paper states. According to German Finance Ministry estimates, the currency could lose as much as 50 percent of its value, leading to a drastic increase in Greek national debt. Schäuble’s staff have calculated that Greece’s national deficit would rise to 200 percent of gross domestic product after such a devaluation. “A debt restructuring would be inevitable,” his experts warn in the paper. In other words: Greece would go bankrupt.

    It remains unclear whether it would even be legally possible for Greece to depart from the euro zone. Legal experts believe it would also be necessary for the country to split from the European Union entirely in order to abandon the common currency. At the same time, it is questionable whether other members of the currency union would actually refuse to accept a unilateral exit from the euro zone by the government in Athens.

    What is certain, according to the assessment of the German Finance Ministry, is that the measure would have a disastrous impact on the European economy.”,1518,761201,00.html


  12. Mary T says:

    I wonder how Pat Martin would go after that ndp gal, if she was a conservative, or the EC person who inserted her name on those papers.


  13. Norm 294 says:

    I confess. I read the state broadcaster but don’t post.

    I also read Heather Mallick. She is totally awesome in a Don Cherry way. Nothing against you Don. I just have a warped and twisted sense of humour.

    Heather, Hate to burst your bubble but if that photo I saw of you wearing the blue dress was your version of slutty….I didn’t think you looked slutty. I just saw a woman in a blue dress.


  14. bluetech says:

    Heard that jon…. more COTU complex. Still rejoicing that enough Canadians rejected the Trawnna elite message and voted CPC.


  15. Tripper523 says:

    I just hope there is strict discipline in the House, because these Dipper Diapers may not even be accustomed to it at Home. I’d like to see these rookies held to account for the complete protocol of the HOC, including respect for their elders, ie. everyone else. I’ve seen a case or two where local council greenhorns are prone to asserting themselves their own way while perhaps not even addressing their colleagues properly. It’s serious business to be an MP, and they’d better catch on to the gravity and sacredness of the trust which with they’ve been bestowed. ‘Caveat emptor’ should apply to voters as well as buyers. The admonition becomes apparent with realization. The die has been cast, so all we can do is watch… I’m SO grateful there is a Conservative Majority in place now! Salvation has come to Canada, and we can be truly thankful that these other concerns are mere sub-plots and could actually be entertaining, if you enjoy some political perversions of irresponsibility and unaccountability to constituents. WE have true representation now, fortunately for myself personally (ie. local riding of Niagara) and nationally!! Long live PM Stephen Harper and his well-deserved 167 seats!!


  16. Norm says:

    Is a “CON” going to be speaker this time around?

    I love being referred to as a “CON”. A source of immense pride!


  17. Bec says:

    I’d like to know what there is “to admire Layton” about now? When a party obviously places ‘bodies’ in riding that they in their wildest dreams, didn’t expect to win tells me that they were after the per vote $$.

    AS well, when he campaigned ferociously in Quebec, saying different things there than he did anywhere else, knowing full well that he had only ‘bodies’ is an insult.

    I am angry that the NDP are asking to be treated differently because the won……?
    Who does that? Whine when you win?


  18. bubba Brown says:

    Norm @ 10:22 Con sounds OK to me after all the whining about “Harper Government”
    Well I guess now we can call it “Harper MAJORITY Government”
    Suck it up twinkies.


  19. Michael Harkov says:

    Ezra Levant absolutley NAILS Susan Delacourt and the Media Party of Canada. They were crying when Ignatieff resigned. I’m not joking, they were really cryig, with tears –


  20. Richco says:

    Joanne wrote “My advice to Tim Hudak’s Progressive Conservatives would be to discount that hope and concentrate on an issue-by-issue, riding-by-riding battle.”

    Totally agree Joanne, you’re exactly right I believe.

    I’d have to add that Hudak also needs to pay more attention to what the people are telling him than to his advisors and hangers on from the old guard.

    “And make good use of the strong Conservative ground-team in Ontario!”

    Right-on again! Starting with opening up communication.

    It’s also crucial that Hudak get out of the gates and start defining himself before the McGuinty Liberal war room do it for him – they’re already trying. If Hudak sits back and takes it for too long that would not be good at all.


    • Joanne says:

      It’s also crucial that Hudak get out of the gates and start defining himself before the McGuinty Liberal war room do it for him – they’re already trying. If Hudak sits back and takes it for too long that would not be good at all.

      Richco – Right on.


      • Joanne says:

        Some of these opposition MPs that lost their ridings and didn’t get a pension must be bitter that their leaders took the government down – especially Todd Russell who was only a few weeks short of qualifying!


  21. Richco says:

    “The State Broadcaster CBC is now charging you to email their stuff.”

    Hey wait a minute folks. Can the CBC just arbitrarily do this? I don’t think they can – we already pay for their stuff, it’s already ours.

    We own the CBC. I do believe that the government should have something to say about this and should be debated in Parliament. What totally bullcrap!

    On the other hand if they’re completely looking to close themselves down and turn people off further this is a great way of doing it.


  22. ed says:

    I just happened to come across this response to William Johnson by a member of the Bloc: it’s written in English:

    Martin Lemay répond à William Johnson (de la défunte Alliance Québec):

    Here’s the mindset of a separatist: this is the way they think. If someone asked me what he would say, it would be very similar to what he wrote. As English Montrealers, we’ve heard it all a thousand times before. No surprise at all but maybe it’s good for other Canadians to get a glimpse of this type of mentality.


  23. ed says:

    Oops, correction. He’s a Part Québécois MNA, not a Bloc.


  24. ed says:

    How Jack Layton courted Bloc voters
    By William Johnson, Ottawa Citizen April 28, 2011

    Very interesting and informative article:

    “Already, in 2003, Layton was anticipating supplanting the Liberals and evoking the possibility of a coalition: “Our program and the list of our candidates will be such as to convince people that we are ready for everything,” he promised, “to govern, to form the official opposition or to participate in a coalition.”

    Multitude of points made by Johnson in the article!!


  25. Liz J says:

    Is Jack Layton a Separatist Light? If he was able to attract Separatist votes with promises he must have come close to selling us all down the river.


  26. maz2 says:

    PET Cemetery Report.

    Liberal party? Saving? It dead. It’s here with Moi.

    PET agrees with Bob; they is no picnic here.


    “Chretien backs Rae for interim Liberal leader”

    “He’s not my official agent. He’s acting on his own behalf,” Rae said.

    Rae is headed to Saskatchewan Saturday where, among other things, he will meet with Regina Liberal MP Ralph Goodale, another potential candidate for the role of interim leader or even leader.

    Coderre said he believes the interim leader must be bilingual and, while Goodale can speak some halting French, Rae is much more at ease speaking both of Canada’s official languages.

    On Friday, Rae acknowledged that his caucus has a host of thorny issues to sort out when it meets next week in Ottawa. It must, for example, decide what kind of powers and authority the interim leader will have and what restrictions, if any, there might be on a leadership race that could last as long as two year. For his part, he will argue that “the race into a leadership race is not necessary.”

    In other words, he – and many other Liberals – believe it may be best to use the time given to them by the fact that they are facing a Conservative majority with a four-year mandate to make sure they get their succession issues right.

    “This is not a picnic,” Rae said. “To rebuild from 19% (popular vote) and 34 seats is doable, but it requires a lot of work and a lot of faith and a lot of meetings with two or three people at a time right across the country.””


  27. maz2 says:

    Our Enemy, The State.


    “Success of 2011 census may come down to nagging, guilt”


  28. Jen says:

    Liz J says:

    May 7,

    Is Jack Layton a Separatist Light? If he was able to attract Separatist votes with promises he must have come close to selling us all down the river.

    I didn’t hear Linda Duncan tell her constituents that her boss supports separatism.


  29. wilson says:

    Things will shake up again in Quebec, with the prov election in 2 years.
    Hopefully the CPC can attract some stronger candidates in Quebec.
    CPC retained 80% of their voters thru the orange crush, that’s a good sign that we will be able to win back those 5 lost seats.

    What the CPC can not do in Quebec, is what the LPC did, shrug off an entire region because you can win majorities without them (Western Canada)


  30. wilson says:

    Libs tossed Plan A, coalition of losers, in 2008 and now Plan B, merger, has just been taken off the table.
    No Dipper/Lib merger says Broadbent.


  31. Swift says:

    Outside of Quebec, I can see no evidence of the result being influenced by strategic voting. Just like the previous two elections, the polls underestimated the final Conservative vote totals, and there was a late upsurge in the Tory support, only partially reflected in the last polls. The Liberals lost votes from the previous election in most ridings, just like the previous elections, and the NDP and Conservatives gained. The GTA surge was apparent very early in the campaign, as the poll that broke out the metro area showed the Conservatives with over 40% support.

    Strategic voting ruled the day in Quebec, of course. By abandoning the Bloc, Quebecers could minimize the chances of the over 40% of both the Liberals and the dippers who were against the three amigos plan from bolting to the Tories. The strategy succeeded except for the minor detail of the Conservative majority. OOOPS!


  32. Joanne says:

    Peter at 11:28 am – Your comment was stuck in the filter but the link isn’t working anyway so I’m deleting it.


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